A peaceful religion

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Dec 24, 2015 15:58:24 GMT -6 seanzie said:

Dec 24, 2015 14:48:40 GMT -6 The Commish Dude Abides said:

The irony is that you and the violent extremist groups themselves are the ones in agreement about their identity with a religion. The rest of the informed world sees them for what they are: thugs, psychopaths, and criminals who are cloaking themselves in religion to justify an age old agenda that predates Islam - to subjugate others and impose their selfish agendas through violent means. You can take away the faux religious labels and people like this would still be engaged in the same sadistic activities. And by agreeing with the terrorists about their so-called religious identity you are both giving them more legitimacy than they deserve and insulting those who practice the real religion.

The true solution to this problem lies in exposing ISIS for what it is, not attacking the entire religion of Islam through mistaken and uninformed assumptions.

Exactly.

Until I see a million Muslims march on Washington against ISIS and demanding that the US go and rid the middle east of them ...I won't buy this idea. 

As I've said before ...this is very similar to the KKK in the south. The KKK was supposedly condemned by all, but many southerners were ready to give them a pass and certainly not willing to call out the KKK or openly march against them. Many Muslims that believe in Sharia law are OK with what ISIS is doing. That doesn't mean that these Muslims are going to take up arms themselves, but they are also not going to do anything to stop it. .......That's the crux of the problem. If all Muslims would condemn this ...then the recruiting would dry up and ISIS would be reduced to an irrelevant organization like the KKK......Talk is cheap ....I'm waiting for worldwide marches.

[artvandelay NP]

Never happen

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Dec 27, 2015 18:20:45 GMT -6 artvandelay NP said:

Never happen

To use the worn out Atlanta phrase ...Eggs-zactly

During the KKK days ....most southerners had some level of racist leanings

Until I see the marches ....i say that the Muslim religion has un-peaceful leanings.

Most any "explanation" too apologize for the Muslims has the same lack of validity as the explanations given to support southerners during those dark days.

[artvandelay NP]

well, it's kinda asked of the followers by their prophet. that's the part no one wants to talk about. not all are called to violence but all are called to spread out and take over.

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Dec 28, 2015 8:32:22 GMT -6 artvandelay NP said:

well, it's kinda asked of the followers by their prophet. that's the part no one wants to talk about. not all are called to violence but all are called to spread out and take over.

Christ asks Christians to go into the world, spread HIS teachings, to baptize and make disciples of all nations:

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2028:16-20

Of course what Mohammed asks of his followers to do to Infidels is a little more extreme. ISIS is following some of those teachings.

The colonial nations that killed and enslaved native peoples in the new world under the auspices of "making disciples" was wrong. Christ did not teach/command such actions.

What ISIS is doing .....can be justified according to Koran writings if one wants to go there.

The natives were powerless to stop the European colonists from committing atrocities in then name of Christ. We aren't powerless ...we can stop ISIS.

All of that being said ....the best way to defeat ISIS would be for all of the "good" Muslims to openly condemn ISIS ...in a very loud and (for once) unambiquous message. ISIS would slowly melt away and many less people would die.

[artvandelay NP]

All that is true but I'm not sure how pure and innocent the natives were. They just lacked the technology to conquer and defeat the Europeans.

Islam is only a peaceful religion when either the infidel is dead or basically enslaved, which is the ultimate plan

[baldy1]

Dec 28, 2015 14:28:05 GMT -6 artvandelay NP said:

All that is true but I'm not sure how pure and innocent the natives were. They just lacked the technology to conquer and defeat the Europeans.

Islam is only a peaceful religion when either the infidel is dead or basically enslaved, which is the ultimate plan

What, you got a problem with that? You're so demanding. I'm sure they don't really mean "conversion by the sword" and such.

[allend]

Lack of assimilation or understanding and adherence to our laws and morés. What we might expect if we open our borders similarly..

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12090750/German-law-should-be-toughened-to-ease-deportation-of-migrants-says-Angela-Merkel.html

[allend]

Crazy Californians.....

Wait.......(and who takes axe handles to church?)

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/watch-shocking-moment-chaotic-brawl-7168831

[baldy1]

Jan 12, 2016 16:20:56 GMT -6 allend said:

Crazy Californians.....

Wait.......(and who takes axe handles to church?)

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/watch-shocking-moment-chaotic-brawl-7168831

What, you don't? Never know when you're gonna run into one of those crazy Lutherans!

Seriously people. I'm not sure anyone landed any of the shots that were thrown. Somebody needs to teach them how to throw a jab. Those dudes have probably been watching too much NBA as they fought like NBA players do (like sissies).

[allend]

Well, in their defense,... Typically they're doing this kind of swinging with a sword.

[allend]

Can't ban that, it'd be un-Islamic
www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/15/bill-banning-child-marriage-fails-in-pakistan-after-its-deemed-un-islamic/?tid=sm_tw

[allend]

news.sky.com/story/1624611/pm-muslim-women-must-learn-english-or-leave

[CHB]

I do not have a problem with requiring the functional use of a country's language. If you truly want become a viable member of society you must be able to speak the language. I'm not suggesting you should give up your natural language but you must be able to communicate.

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Funny story, the official business language of my Japanese based employer is English. Score one for imperialism.